K.H. Moeslim Imam Rifai Puro, 79, suddenly became angry. His breath came in short bursts and his voice turned to a high pitch. He stared intensely at TEMPO, last Monday. No need to interview. My concern is the unitary state of Indonesia. Where it will be in the future. It is a world and hereafter commitment! said Mbah Lim, the head of the Pesantren Al Muttaqin Pancasila Sakti, Karanganom, Klaten, Central Java.

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