The collapse of Bank Century dragged down Rafat Ali Rizvi. As one of the owners of First Gulf Asia Holding, a major shareholder of Bank Century, he has been indicted by the Attorney General's Office (AGO). The police have also asked for the help of Interpol to pursue Robert, who is a British citizen. Tempo reporters Wahyu Muryadi, Padjar Iswara and Rumbadi Dalle met him at an undisclosed site. Excerpts:

How long have you known Robert Tantular?

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