One woman speaks coherently yet furiously about Maluku. She was "correcting" the statement of a teacher at a religious course in the famous Islamic foundation in Jakarta, who when explaining "Islam's spirit for peace" seemed to be blaming the Muslims and Christians involved in the fighting in Maluku. She said that, supposing if no such militia groups such as Laskar Mujahidin and Laskar Jihad were present, "the futu