The two men sit in a corner in the shade, every now and then taking a stroll—constantly debating.

This scene in the 17th century Italian garden in the film The Two Popes is central to Fernando Meirelles’s work, which arose from an important fragment in the history of the Catholic Church, when faith, power and sin connected.

The Cardinal says to the Pope: “Our whole church is in need of forgiveness.”

“We have spent